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Friday, 22 July 2011

Secrets Of The Pop Song: more thoughts

The second and third programmes in this very interesting series are now online here, and you can read my musings on the first show here.

  • What makes a song a hit? Boy George says "Airplay."  There's a lot to this.  One thing the programme didn't mention is the amout of money paid by record companies to plug their artists' records (or, indeed, get them onto BBC documentaries writing songs with Guy Chambers).  Lamont Dozier of Motown writing legends Holland Dozier Holland, on the other hand, says "I don't know - and I've had, like, 78 top ten hits."
  • Another guilty pleasure (if harsh) from Boy George, who's actually coming across very well in this series (normally gets right on my wires): "People say 'Oh you've got to admire them because they've been so successful and sold so many records.'  I don't.  Arms dealers do well."
  • Guy Chambers "has written over a thousand songs, and had 21 hit singles."  That's a 2% success rate, which puts things in perspective for whining songwriters like me who complain they're not getting their piece of the pie!  Indeed, while the radio pluggers were going wild about the Ballad from the first show, they were unconvinced about the Breakthrough Single from the second show, and weren't even shown commenting on the third programme's Anthem.  Both of those songs were good... but not great.  And this is from one of the UK's most renowned writers - but where he scores over others is that he'll keep on writing those fifty songs until he gets the one that works.  (Interesting moment in the third programme where after a day of pounding out three ideas with The Noisettes, he wasn't afraid to ditch all three and pound out another three ideas.  Excellent).
Deals with a 98% failure rate very well
  • Is there anybody in the top 40 at the moment who isn't from a stage school, a reality show, or the loins of a record executive?  Nepotism's always been around, and of course A&R people are going to make stage schools their first stop, but the industry does seem to be more than usually saturated... or is that just me being jaded?  It'll be interesting to see what happens when the BRIT school's bubble finally bursts.
  • Writing songs - jamming, making random sounds/words to find a melody
  • Brian Higgins, ringleader of Xenomania, one of the best songwriting/production houses since Stock Aitken & Waterman (just Google them - fantastic track record, no pun intended) - group of half a dozen or so writers, with one decision maker.  Reminds me of Motown's quality control meetings...
  • Round Round by Sugababes: piece of new music formed basis of the track; chorus was taken from a 2-year-old track written by Xenomania co-writer Miranda Cooper.  It's easy to get precious about songs, and see them as whole pieces; but if you have one song with a great chorus and nothing much else, and another song with a great verse and nothing much else, why not try and clag them together?
Tried to find a pic of the Sugababes' current line-up
but nobody knows who's in the group this month

  • Rich Harrison, producer of (amongst other things) Beyonce's Crazy In Love and Amerie's One Thing, talks about starting with an instrumental, then "grunting" a melody over the top of it until it forms itself into something workable.  Seeing a pattern here?
  • Group writing - Tawiah singing her melody/lyric; Chambers suggesting she changes the odd word, then adding his own counter melody.
Another argument breaks out over who wrote the mid 8

  • Jessie J: "80% of my time is taken up with talking about making music, not actually making music."  Seems like a smart girl - reckon she'll be around for a while.  Incidentally, BBC, her career did not "start with writing songs for Justin Timberlake and Taylor Swift."  Nobody's career starts there!
  • Quote of the series from Sting: "My critical factors are highly attuned." It's nice to know that as empires rise and fall, Sting will always be a complete knob. :o)
Sumner's Constant
Also on this week were a couple of shows about Ray Davies and The Kinks and a superb documentary on Harry Nilsson - watch it now if you haven't already!

Thursday, 21 July 2011

Hang on again...

I'm off on (belated) honeymoon to the States on Monday - four weeks around the North, South and West - but this means I've been cramming a hell of a lot in at the moment to pay for it!  But Song A Week will still be continuing.  Here's what's coming up in the next few weeks:

  • Song 28 - the most ridiculous track I've done since Marty & Me back at track 4
  • Thoughts on the second and third Secrets of the Pop Song BBC programme - read my thoughts on part one here
  • Various wibblings about musical things I come across in the US of A
  • And of course, Songs 29 onwards.  Yes, courtesy of VocaLive I'll be able to record while we're out there.  (I have a very understanding wife - it was actually Jess's suggestion!)
Ta-ra! Mind the roads!
 But in the meantime, as we'll be going to Graceland at some point, here's a track I recorded a few years ago of which I'm very fond - it's an odd little thing, but I'd love to know what you think.  I think it's kind of a prelude to Song 26: Escape on Amenartas.



  
More tracks at my Soundcloud Site 

And finally, do try and come along to the gig tomorrow night (Friday 22nd July) at The Star Inn, Guildford. We'll be playing a few new tracks from the Song A Week project, and will be supported by Steve The Drummer's band Earthtide - 70s inspired metal with stoner grooves.  They are not to be missed - a truly excellent band, with excellent musicianship and superb heavy-as-Rick-Waller guitar riffs that lift them above most other metal bands on the circuit.  £2 in; doors about 8.30. 

Monday, 11 July 2011

BBC: Secrets of the Pop Song, part 1 (Ballad)


The BBC is currently running a three-part series called Secrets of the Pop Song, in which top UK songwriter Guy Chambers (more hits than you can shake a stick at, most famously providing the best songs of Robbie Williams' career) pairs up with a different artist each week to write a different type of song.


Spectacular doyle, Robbie Williams, who made the mistake
of thinking he was bigger than his songwriters

If you haven't seen it yet, check out part 1 here, in which Chambers writes a ballad with Canadian balladeer Rufus Wainwright.

As I was watching it, I jotted down a few thoughts:
  • Starting with a title can give you the concept of the song, and the atmosphere of the music straight away, meaning you can streamline the playing around on instruments you do to find a suitable riff or musical style. 

  • When I write a riff or a chord sequence, I follow my ear initially; but then I need to check whether the result is “comfortable” to the audience, or just predictable. Audiences sometimes like to be pleasantly surprised with where a song goes, but they don't like to be jerked around all over the place.

  • Lyricist Don Black: “If you can recognise yourself in a song” then you're onto a winner. Very true. If a song's too specific in its lyrics, only people who've experienced that specific situation will be able to relate to it. If you make the words a little more general, boiling the song down to the basic emotion rather than the specifics of the situation that moved you to write those words, then more people will feel like the song “speaks” to them.

  • Sting, along the same lines, talking about Every Breath You Take, which he intended as quite a bitter song about a troubled break-up, being played at people's weddings because other people hear a different meaning altogether. “It means whatever you want it to mean”.


    Ok, he's a bit of a knob,
    but he's sold more records than all of us.

  • Boy George, saying it's easier and better to write from personal experience. I'm not sure that's always true, and I certainly don't think that it's best to write lyrics in the heat of the moment when an emotion's at its most powerful. Most of my songs are about my personal experiences, but they're almost always imagined or remembered a while afterwards, when I'm in a different mood; otherwise I end up being too specific (see Don Black section), or just too much like an angry teenager's diary. Also, look at Randy Newman, who writes superb songs often from a different character's point of view, not his own.

  • Don Black again: artist-specific songs and in-jokes often make songs unsellable from a publishing point of view. A song that's too much like a Rufus Wainwright song (with RW being a pretty idiosyncratic artist) would be a turn-off for a publishing company, since they wouldn't be able to place it with anybody else on their roster (unless they happened to have a roster of Rufus Wainwright soundalikes, which isn't likely!)

  • Radio scouts going mental over the final track. Of course they are – the show would have been a damp squib if the end product had been a flop, and also it's a well put together track. The quality of the recording, too, is excellent. I do wonder, though, if they would have been quite as excited if they hadn't known who'd written it...
This last point also raises a problem a lot of songwriters have, namely the quality of their demos. Nowadays, scouts aren't remotely interested in anything that's done on a dictaphone with just you and your guitar – the demo has to sound slick and well-produced; pretty much ready to broadcast as it is. It's a shame, really; a great song is a great song, regardless of the production quality. But with technology getting better and cheaper as time goes on, every songwriter potentially has professional studio-quality sounds within their budget, so of course the standard of demo production is going to rise; and it's only natural that a scout's ears are drawn more to a shiny radio-ready demo than a poorly-recorded sketch. 

 
Wonderbollocks Records do not accept unsolicited wax cylinders*

In the past I've had A&R people turn down my demos because my vocals weren't up to scratch – I was livid at the time, because I wouldn't have been singing the song on the final record, so what the hell does it matter what my voice sounds like? But that's the way the industry's working at the moment, so there's no point griping. If your vocals aren't up to the job, hire a singer. If your demos are getting returned because the production's not good enough, throwing a tantrum (as I've done many a time) isn't going to get you anywhere. It might not be fair; it might not be right; but it's how it's done.

*photo courtesy of Ohio State University
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